The New Strung out ass end is 8" down and 12" back. The rear fender is 16" back at the point for that long sleek look. The bags come with replaceable plastic skid plats. Fender also has a replaceable skid plate. No more tearing down your bike at the paint shop for repairs. This kit also features alignment pins. Brackets mounted to the end of the bags have 1/4" pins that go into a rubber grommet in the fender assuring your gaps stay perfect! - Bags will only be 2014 and up hardware but will fit 09-current.